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btvs jts with riley and the initiatve. that soryline was weak and so was riley. There were some brilliant episodes in the last seasons but it cannot compare to the first 3 seasons when every episode was brilliant. such is life though.
I think that Buffy fans are divided into two groups, pre and post Dawn. A lot of the original fan base lost interest after she became a character and missed out on some really great television. Yeah, it was hard to get used to but I would argue that some of the best episodes in the series were post Dawn. I think the show really lost its steam in the 7th season. There was just too much going on and too many new people introduced. It would have been better if they had dumped the whole potential slayer story line and finished out the series with just the main cast.
i love buffy! its awesome! but i think when Kennedy came in, it just really annoyed me! she always tried to be better than all of them and she wasnt and when her and willow like kissed it didnt look good at all! very forced!
I own all 7 seasons of Buffy, and have watched all of them countless times. IMHO, Buffy jumped the shark during Season 7 when Buffy's personality became cold and the way she acted as the leader of the Potentials. In this season, she's heartless and behaves like she's running a military. What happened to the spunky, witty, free-spirited Buffy of the earlier seasons?
For example, in the episode "Selfless" where Anya's granting of a wish leads to the death of 12 college boys, the first thing Buffy thinks of doing is killing her. So out-of-character, and very heartless of Buffy. Another example of her coldness is "Empty Places" where the Potentials and Scooby Gang kick her out from the leadership role for the way she's been treating them (she deserved it).
Not to mention those annoying speeches she would give throughout the season.
For example, in the episode "Selfless" where Anya's granting of a wish leads to the death of 12 college boys, the first thing Buffy thinks of doing is killing her. So out-of-character, and very heartless of Buffy. Another example of her coldness is "Empty Places" where the Potentials and Scooby Gang kick her out from the leadership role for the way she's been treating them (she deserved it).
Not to mention those annoying speeches she would give throughout the season.
Every season was necessary in its own way. It annoys me that people come on here and criticize the later years even though it's obvious that they did watch them. I totally agree with many who say that they weren't as good as the early years, but isn't that usually the case with most shows anyway? But what I did notice is that a lot of stuff in the early years seemed to foreshadow what would come later. Spuffy, for example. That relationship had a lot of subtle build-up since the day Spike arrived in sunnydale.
for me buffy was never the same after the episode in the mental hospital where it was determined that she was imagining being a slayer. it was so close to what could be the truth that i could never quite watch the show again without thinking is she in an asylum somewhere imagining all of this? so i guess for me that would make the show having jumped the shark.
Agree with most that this show JTS when Angel left to do his own show. I was a die-hard fan during the first 3 seasons. Didn't miss a show. Faith was a kick-butt awesome character that I loved. Why the dumb-f's having put out season 2 and 3 on DVD is beyond me.
Then season 4 at college suddenly went from great to suck when they gave us "The Initiative". Terrible. Buffy's love interest (forget his name) did not work. Spike was gone (yeah, I know he came back, but without the same appeal for me). Plus, Giles was gone, without him, the show wasn't grounded and stable anymore. I did like Hush a lot, and when they brought back Faith and killed her. Great episode. It saved season 4 for me.
I did tune in for season 5 and thought the "Dracula" episode was awful. Then they introduced Dawn. Yawn. She was hot, but the who idea of Buffy suddenly, out of no where, having a sister, seemed to silly for me. I'd rather they just ended the show on a high note at the end of season 4.
Then season 4 at college suddenly went from great to suck when they gave us "The Initiative". Terrible. Buffy's love interest (forget his name) did not work. Spike was gone (yeah, I know he came back, but without the same appeal for me). Plus, Giles was gone, without him, the show wasn't grounded and stable anymore. I did like Hush a lot, and when they brought back Faith and killed her. Great episode. It saved season 4 for me.
I did tune in for season 5 and thought the "Dracula" episode was awful. Then they introduced Dawn. Yawn. She was hot, but the who idea of Buffy suddenly, out of no where, having a sister, seemed to silly for me. I'd rather they just ended the show on a high note at the end of season 4.
Show jump the shark when season 3 ended, after that, Anya could not replace Cordelia, especially Tara and Spike could not replace Angel and Oz, Spike was great character but Spike from season 2, first that chip, then getting a soul, it was very stupid, then Willow becoming gay, Anya was not that bad although i loved Cordy more...
"my first inkling that the ride was about to end was when it was hinted that Willow was gay."
I have to agree. I have no problem with it, but it wasn't realistic or fitting with her character. Also, it was obvious when Oz came back that she was torn between them, and therefore, the fact that she still had romantic feelings for him proved that she wasn't gay. I think it was just about Tara being so special to her, and mending her broken heart when Oz left.
I think that my point is pretty much that the show jumped the shark when Oz cheated (as a werewolf) with Veruca and left Willow. I really missed their relationship and I just don't count W/T in the same league as them, no matter how in love they were.
I have to agree. I have no problem with it, but it wasn't realistic or fitting with her character. Also, it was obvious when Oz came back that she was torn between them, and therefore, the fact that she still had romantic feelings for him proved that she wasn't gay. I think it was just about Tara being so special to her, and mending her broken heart when Oz left.
I think that my point is pretty much that the show jumped the shark when Oz cheated (as a werewolf) with Veruca and left Willow. I really missed their relationship and I just don't count W/T in the same league as them, no matter how in love they were.
I thought it jumped as they introduced season 6 and absolutely everything was depressing (even the musical got depressing after a while).
I mean, they fought a God in the last season and Buffy died, which seems like an amazing ending, but I felt the writers went too far in bringing her back, since by that point the whole monster of the week thing was dead and buried and they were stuck fighting 3 nerds. It just seemed to kill the 'feel' of the show.
That and Tara's death...WHY???? She should have lived!!!!
I mean, they fought a God in the last season and Buffy died, which seems like an amazing ending, but I felt the writers went too far in bringing her back, since by that point the whole monster of the week thing was dead and buried and they were stuck fighting 3 nerds. It just seemed to kill the 'feel' of the show.
That and Tara's death...WHY???? She should have lived!!!!
I'm gonna piss off a lot of PC types as well as legit Buffy fans with this. But my first inkling that the ride was about to end was when it was hinted that Willow was gay. It was so cynically contrived and annoying as to eventually throw the whole show off center. Mr. Whedon is a gifted TV writer but this sop to modern morality was so poorly written he should have been smacked. Now the insult was eventually made up for in introducing Tara but not enough. And even that was subsequently ruined by her death.
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