Shark Bytes

what does it mean "jumped the shark when...."??? what is that reason i dont get it

Loved the show..I discovered it in re-runs and I am hooked.
One problem, Daphne's brother has a very poor British accent (is fake?) and he sounds Cockney while Daphne (who is a real Brit) sounds like a Manchester girl.

The early years of this show are so well done, fun, and rewatchable. Around season 5 there was a really noticable drop in quality, and unfortunately it went the way of so many shows that start off strong but go on for too long - it became lame shadow of itself. The Niles and Daphne thing was just very badly handled, it should have happened but not in such a drawn out, beating around the bush way. Oh, well, at least it WAS good stuff for awhile, and that's more than most shows can say!

A show as sharply written as this never actually jumped but, inevitably, the quality of the scripts dropped as season succeeded season.

It did come near to jumping when Daphne got serious with Niles - this relationship just stretched credibilty too far.
The only time I felt it wasn't worth watching was when any of Daphne's family featured. They were all boring and unfunny.

One of the two best-written comedies in the last 25 years,the Sam & Diane years of Cheers being the other one(both wriiten by the same team by the way).Okay,it jumped when Niles & Daphne got together(getting there was half the fun).Martin was always a riot.Overall,a show that made me laugh every week,something I really miss from today's sitcoms(?).A show that let you like the actors,characters,and especially,the writing!

Jumped when Daphne's mother was introduced to the show. Highly irritating to the point that the fact no-one killed her off was actually unrealisitc. What a ghastly character she was.

Why one of the cleverest shows ever made felt the need to throw in an extra character that adds nothing apart from getting the back up of the viewer to the point it's high blood pressure time every show I will never know. Cow.

It´s funny how people turn the TV on to watch a SITCOM and then complain that some characters does not represent REAL PEOPLE!! In a sitcom! Amazing.

To the poster who commented on the "almost fast food style" restaurant... there's nothing wrong with fast food.
THE HEALTH NAZIS MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!

I liked the show very much, unfortunately it was very underrated in spite of its popularity it was lost between friends and seinfeld.

It's one of the smartest show ever. my fave char is Roz ( i loathe niles with passion).

Overall I liked the show from season 1 through 11. But there were a couple times when the quality sank and I knew the end was near. Perhaps it ran one season too long but it was always decent, if not great.

Daphne and Niles getting engaged was a big turning point, and many episodes after that day were less than hilarious. Roz having a baby could be considered another downward turn in the show. Martin getting a permanent girlfriend, eventually fiance.
Frasier and Roz sleeping together.

Those last few seasons it seems the writers were desperate to find heart when they should have just been entertaining us.

I also agree with some of the other folks here about episode 3. It was silly to make the boys seem like snobs after they had their ties chopped off.
Shame because thats so early in their maiden season and it almost killed the show right there.
The boys WERE snobs but the writers made that point better in later episodes.

Season two with the gay guy assuming Frasier is gay was fanatastic, and some folks might suggest the show stopped being hysterical after that.

There was an episode from the first season that didn't make any sense not that it was JTS. Martin takes Frasier and Niles to this really crappy restaurant I believe it was a steak house, it wasn't a modest place that served good food but some junky almost fast food dump. The two wear silk ties and the waiter makes this big deal about no ties in the restaurant and proceeds to take a scissor to both their ties and cuts them off. The two are justified in being angry I think thats called assault not to mention a fine silk tie can cost over 150 bucks, Martin gets huffy and plays on this he's working class and they are these stuffy snobs bit. In real life Frasier could have sued nobody has a right to do that. If a place is a crappy restaurant than so be it, they have a right to call Martin out on it. it's the one episode that stuck in my mind as being poorly written. I could see Frasier and Niles liking a good, but modest place that served great food but the writers made Martin look foolish for liking a bad restaurant.

By the termonology used by the most recent poster, my guess would be that he or she is from England. If you are reading this, please tell me if I am correct! Another thing that I would like to touch on is what this poster said about the show being esentially a "gay" show. I am going to have to say that I am as straight as an arrow and I liked it a lot! I espeicially liked its current events humor. I remember when Frasier said that a lady was coming to his apartment for the second time in a week to pick up some more "Frequant Frasier Miles"! How funny! Another thing that I really enjoyed was when Felicity Huffman appeared on the show. I thought that she was truely hot stuff!

It was funny alright...but the FRASIER Crane character was a joke, it worked if it was a self-satire for psychiatrics.

He was dumb, often falls in stupid situations and he always has some weird issues he cannot solve although he studies the human psyche.

NILES is the same, and at the end he became too much of a wimp to be liked.

DAPHNE was fine, but when she hooked-up with NILES her comedic part was certainly over.

The only characters that I actually liked and who represented a real portrayal of people were ROZ and MARTIN...not to mention the show dragged on for too long

Definitely jumped when Niles and Daphne got together. I can see why a successful show has to keep going but Frasier was so sublimely good in the early years that the later series (despite some nice lines) are really awful in comparison and Daphne's family is the nadir. I think it was essentially a gay sitcom and worked best when Frasier and Niles were two prissy bachelors. R.I.P. Eddie.

Frasier never jumped. It came teeteringly close with the low quality of a lot of the shows in Season 9 - Kirby, ugh - but the show ended at the right time.